, as I have great respect for the knowledge and experience that can be had within their ever-expanding network. Essentially, EC's coaches (
, et al) and I all see eye-to-eye on a vast number of triathlon-related "issues", namely in keeping a positive learning---and performance related---environment. The information shared on the forum alone is absolutely invaluable and I do my part to pipe in when I have something of value to add. (Needless to say, I don't pipe in too often.) I'm not sure if there's room for more athletes at this time---from what I understand, they're already dealing with some growing pains!---but I strongly suggest joining Endurance Corner. Conversely, you could try to peek in from the outside, which of course is not a bad place to be though the vantage peering in is less than ad
ous.
Below,
JD welcomed me to the team and asked about my swim background (or lack thereof) and how I learned to swim "late" in life...you might find value in our conversation.
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Mr. V, First off, thanks for joining us. I'd like to hear your ideas/thoughts on how you progressed as a swimmer in triathlon without a swimming background. I realize it might not be a short answer, but it would be great to hear what 'worked' for you over the years. Many folks on this forum, self included, lack a swim background before triathlon. Thanks, justin
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This is a question I've been asked a few times JD, and not an easy answer to pinpoint (ergo, my long response). I think the biggest two considerations were constant diligence to technique (mostly in the form of drag reduction and not just propulsion) and patience.
First, a background: I started swimming at 21 (old by swimming standards; infantile by triathlon standards!). Prior to that I had never swam. I grew up in the Sierra and swimming there was known as "freezing", which wasn't something I was too terribly fond of. At the time I was living at the Olympic Training Center as a National Team cyclist (roommate of Larsen, teammate of Lance's, Hincapie's, McCrae's, etc) but had quickly grown tired of what I experienced/witnessed in cycling; no further comment needed there. Leaving cycling left me with limited options, but I had run some in high school and figured I'd at least give triathlon a try. Oddly enough, Steve was feeling the same way but would attempt mountain biking initially (quite successfully, of course). He suggested I try the same...until he saw me ride a mountain bike, anyway.
Anyway, I entered a Bud Light Triathlon Series race in Phoenix to commit myself. When the cycling coaches (Carmichael and crew) weren't looking, I'd snuck over to the swim federation and introduced myself. The guys at USA Swimming took it upon themselves to see if they could make a non-swimmer a swimmer. There was no pool at the OTC in those days, so I swam in my cycling shorts in the "flume", a high-tech swim treadmill. The flume has an adjustable current with windows and cameras and underwater speakers everywhere, a definite plus for stroke critique. I'd receive ample criticism.
The first thing the crew wanted to do, after seeing me attempt to swim and capturing it on film (blackmail!), was to time me over varying distances. They wanted to see if I could kick or sprint and then see what would happen in a 1,500-meter time-trial. To this day I employ a similar protocol with those I guide, to see what their raw speed is like (their pure alactic speed), what their anaerobic speed is like (50-100-meters), what their "VO2 speed" is like (400-meters) and whether their steady-state stamina is in relation to any of these. (I hope to get into this over time here.)
So, over the course of a week, we'd drive to the Air Force Academy, to test in the only 50m long-course pool in the area. The thing looked like an ocean as far as I was concerned! My 50-meter sprint was slow but more promising than anything longer than it. My 100-meter free was worse yet and my 1,500-meter was, in their words, "abysmal". I dragged myself to the final wall in 36-minutes flat.
A year later I swam the 1,500 in a Masters meet in less than half that time, despite a five-second pit-stop to fix my goggles, which had popped off after diving from the blocks!
Here's all I can think of for now and how I think some of it can be applied to each of us...
1) I was analytical to the point of being anal: ANAL-ytical. The guys at USA Swimming led me to believe that ALL swimmers are wired as such, and that that's what the sport required. I basically could not do a single stroke without thinking about was I was doing; or what EVERY part of me was doing.
To this day I simply cannot turn my brain off when in the water. Some people slice through the water in a zen-like state; I never got there. (
Where are my feet in relationship to the surface? Am I kicking too hard? Hard enough? How is my head position? Can I breath to both sides equally as comfortable? Can I lift my head less as I breathe? Why so many bubbles upon hand entry? How is my rotation? Am I too flat on the water or about to rotate over on my back? Where are my elbows?! Are my hands, wrists and forearms perpendicular to the direction I'm trying to move myself as I pull? Etc, etc, etc.) I would learn within a week that the only time I could relax my brain in the pool was during non-freestyle recovery type of swimming. Otherwise, it was constant and relentless attention to detail. The gang at USA Swimming said I had done them proud: "There is no perfect stroke, only yours". I took that as a compliment, until I heard them tell every other swimmer the same damn thing!
2) I swam a LOT. I had "enough" fitness on the bike to last a while so instead of riding all day I swam: double-days, triple-days, dry-land practice. What some elite triathletes were swimming in a week we'd do in a day. Of course, swimming allows for this craziness, whereas running does not (I learned this the hard way).
3) I swam SLOWLY. Many of us watch our form fall apart as we increase our speed and effort. The guys at USA Swimming assured me I'd never reach my potential (by now they were telling me I had "missed my calling"!) if I constantly tried to swim my hardest. About 80% of the time I was swimming at 80% of the speed of which I was capable over a given distance. If I could sustain 1:40 per 100, I was doing them in 2:00. Quite often I swam with kids a third my age, even though I could kick their little arses! "Take that, you little maggots!" (I was very mature.) Their parents, seeing a 20-something year-old in the lane with their children, thought I was "special".
4) I swam with GUIDANCE. Obviously I was extremely privileged that I had some of the best coaches in the world in my corner. After a while I felt that I owed them MY best.
5) I swam without gear. Whereas many triathletes over-rely on swim gear (or so I feel) I was taught to learn without it, to pick up on the subtle nuances of the human body moving through water. I could (and would) then introduce gear as I gained proficiency. The coaches used to say that if I couldn't learn to swim without gear, then I sure as hell wasn't going to learn with it. It'd take me years to see what they meant, but thankfully I trusted them before I learned I could trust them!
6) I kept things simple. Despite all the analytics going on inside my head I looked at swimming as little more than me, a body of water, and a pace clock. The goal was to decrease my work rate and the time it took to get across the pool…plain and simple. The clock would never lie, whereas I had to learn to listen closely to my work rate, to be sure I knew what it was telling me.
7) I kept BALANCED. This was one of the things the coaches always preached…"balance, balance, balance"! I thought they were nuts. I mean, really, how does one balance in water? There were no wheels! What they really meant was SYMMETRY. I always wanted to breathe to my left, since for years I'd look back for cars over my left shoulder as I rode. And so it felt natural to breathe to that side. My right side was completely foreign (in fact, the first time I traveled to England for bike racing I couldn't even turn my head back over my right shoulder, to note if there might be any cars coming up from behind). It was something the coaches would not allow for…one-sided breathing. I'm glad now too, as the benefits of bilateral breathing are numerous (improved sighting, breathing away from the current or a "splashy" competitor, more RHYTHMIC, an equal amount of stress placed on each side of the body, etc). The symmetry and rhythm would become everything.
8) I kept MOTIVATED. It was fun to improve and I loved the fact that very few people could swim fast; it made me want to join their ranks. Moreover, it was fun to kick Lance Armstrong's ass at something! (But watch out in Kona next year: he'll be a mid-50's guy.)
9) I was FLEXIBLE, both in terms of learning what it took (and in changing what I thought it took), as well as in a physiological sense. So many world-class swimmers are LIMBER and I had an "unfair" advantage of having that from day one.
10) I LOVED the bleached hair and the "swimmer's build" (both female and male).
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Some of what I learned
after my first year…
1) It's as hard to teach swimming as it is to learn it. Worse yet, we never fully learn it.
2) It took another few years to realize that open-water swimming required a different approach than did becoming a fast pool swimmer. Stroke rate is VITAL and a nice, long glide is really only meant for pool swimming. In pool swimming it is better to be slippery than it is to be strong (that is if you had to pick one of the two); in choppy open-water the need for strength and turnover is paramount. With open-water we are dealing with constricting wetsuits, currents/waves, pack dynamics (i.e, gaps to be bridged) and tactics, turn buoys, beach runs (sometimes), a bike and run to follow(!), sharks, eels, jellyfish (i.e., fears), and so on. In the pool there is you and a wall on each end of some smooth water, and, if you're lucky, a coach or two who cares.
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Great stuff Chuckie. Thank you for such an in-depth response. I'm sure that took some time, but we'll archive it! Is there anything you would have done differently as you look back over the years (other than starting before 21)? What would you suggest time-limited non-swimmers focus on? If someone has 3 x 1 hour/week, where would you start? What would you have them do? -justin
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Other than starting at 4 years old(!), I wouldn't have changed a thing, except perhaps to have inserted some more open-water swimming (where possible) into the repertoire, and to have included a weekly time-trial effort.
We make our biggest gains with SUSTAINED cardiac pressure and all that short "burst" swimming (ala Masters practice) simply cannot replace longer, harder efforts.
I firmly believe that for the three-times-a-week swimmer, one session ideally ought to be dedicated to this end: a sustained time-trial type of effort, close to their goal race distance/duration. I don't believe that most triathletes are limited by their speed (in other words, most of us can go fast for short periods, meaning we have the 'speed' within us) but by their lack of true endurance or stamina (i.e., the capacity to maintain speed).
This is what the graphing I mentioned above can help to point out...that if our inherent speed (measured over a short distance) is okay, but our longer efforts are sub-par, a simple range of tests (over a range of distances) will show this.
So, with this in mind, at least one weekly session really ought to address it...
For example:
Monday: Recovery from the weekend (more isolated shoulder-work (i.e., paddles and/or a ankle-restricting band) and lighter "strength work" in the pool (3-4K).
Wednesday: A sustained aerobic time-trial, up to goal race distance. Warm-up, start the TT, cool-down. It's boring, but from what I've seen (and with a wide range of athletes), it's VERY effective.
Friday: Speed work (turn-over, etc), and anaerobic/aerobic capacity (Masters type of swimming!). If not this speed work, a second power or strength-related workout is ideal. Again, alluding to my very last paragraph in the post above, open-water swimming is as much strength-related as it is anything. We should embrace upper-body isolation.
Lastly (for now!), if the athlete is a poor swimmer (in relationship to his or her other activities or in relation to other competitors), he or she really out to hire a coach (i.e., form check; this is IMPERATIVE, as technique is 75-85% of swimming fast) and swim 4-5 days a week. Frequency and consistency are vital, just as it in with running or cycling.
Of course, the logistics of getting to the pool or a lake aren't always easy (like suiting up for a run might be) but the payoff can be quite lucrative, given time. One must put in the time and then give it time! You're keeping me thinking JD! I'm stoked to be part of the team! -Chuckie
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Would you have any preference on the TT distances? Or is the general point that folks should be swimming continuously at a high rate? I really do agree with you in this area. Many folks don't have the ability to sustain a high, even pace for long bouts, but can manage to crank on 50-100s on moderate rest. good stuff, j
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Justin,
I think the goal distance or goal duration (of the athlete's race) is ideal, personally, but I realize that that's a LONG way to swim a time-trial each week. (The mental challenge is PROFOUND, as is having to count laps the entire way!) Thankfully, a 1,000 meter/yard effort often tells us enough---i.e., whether the stamina to sustain a higher percentage of the athlete's anaerobic speed (100-200) is there or not. If not, longer steady-state workouts and sets are what are required.
Toward the end of my career I used to do a twice-monthly 5-kilometer time-trial in a 50-meter pool in Lodi, CA. It was absolute mental hell (the time-trial and Lodi both!). I was lucky though, in that the pool was most often empty and my 500 splits (when swimming well) made it easy to remember precisely how far I'd swum. I broke it up mentally as 10 x 500s done continuously, which helped a ton, as did my watch with a huge dial face. Today, I'd probably use one of those fancy water-proof iPod units!
Music or not, I cannot get the pros I guide to do anything even remotely close to this, no matter how much I try to persuade them; force won't even work! (It would be a case of 'suicide watch' for the lifeguards, I'm sure.) Of course, I don't blame the athletes. But it was these sorts of efforts that made the difference in getting down to the
highest possible percentage of what "natural speed" ability I possessed.
Now I don't write any of this to boast or refer it back to me, so much as to bring to light the importance of wisely-applied steady-state training, and how to measure for it. If an athlete is relatively fast at short distances, they can be relatively fast at longer ones, given the correct training approach. Alan can pipe in on this if he would, as there are some individuals who simply aren't "built" (physiologically speaking) for being an endurance athlete, but that doesn't really apply to those of us here. We can ALL swim faster with some of these considerations in mind.
So, JD, ready for some 5K TTs at Scott Carpenter Pool when I return to Boulder?! Give me 12 weeks and we'll get you down to 48-minutes!